Pick-Up Line FAIL

by doniree on August 4, 2009 · 109 comments

in Travel

SCORE, I thought.

Seat 18-E found me next to a relatively good-looking guy.

Immediately, he was chatty. Chatty is fun. I can chat.

“Is Minneapolis home?” he asks me.

“Why yes, yes, it is,” I respond. “What about you? Are you from there or from LA?”

“I’m actually from LA, but I’m headed to Columbus, OH for a soccer game.”

We continue to chat. I learn his name, that he’s originally from West Africa, that he’s been in LA for the past 10 years, just got into a university RN program and plays soccer for fun. His friends were meeting in Columbus from all over the country this weekend for a soccer game.

Perfectly charming.  And not bad on paper.

Until.

“So, do you have a boyfriend?”

AHEM. Wait, what? You’ve talked to me for thirty seconds and you’re already THERE? I’m still trying to get used to your accent.

Ok.

Breathe.

“No, I don’t.”

“What’s a pretty girl like you doing without a boyfriend?”

I want to be flattered, but in order to be so, I have to ignore every single thing that’s glaringly wrong with that question.

I am polite, after all.

“I’m too busy, and actually prefer it this way for now.”

(Honest)

This is the point where I thought he might ask what I’m so busy doing, or we might go back to normal-people conversation.

NOPE.

“Have you ever dated outside of your race?”

At this point, I’m confused.

Flattered, kind of, but confused.  Exactly what kind of “dating” was he getting at?   With him?  In general?  Is he going to suggest grabbing a drink while he waits for his connection in MSP?

Let’s address the logistics of this implied absurdity first.

I JUST met him. Checking my watch indicates we met, oh about 10 minutes ago.

He knows I’m 26, live in Minneapolis, was in LA for a night to have dinner with a friend, and work in advertising.

He was only passing through Minneapolis.

Ignoring what he’s now implying with use of the word “dating,” I try to glaze over it.

So, I (politely, of course) say no.

And then my favorite part:

“You’ve never dated a brother?”

(IS THIS REALLY HAPPENING?)

“No, I mean I’ve dated guys of different ethic backgrounds (thinks back to Brits, Chileans, Irish, and Germans), but if you’re asking if I’ve ever dated a ‘brother,’ than no, I have not.”

“Well, you say you travel a lot, we should get together when you come out here next.”

:::kadfkajfakdjfiweg:::

(That’s what speechless freakouts sound like in my head)

I’m trying to be polite. I’m about to spend the next three-point-five hours at 35k feet with this guy (and if he’s got ideas about Club5280 in his head, he is SORELY mistaken), so I’m trying to figure out how to diffuse this without being outright rude, but without being outright awkward either.

Turns out, I’m not rude, but I am awkward.  I changed the subject to the most random tidbits of small talk I could think of.

We took off to the West, so I used that as an opportunity to obsess over the view of the ocean out of his window (I’m landlocked in Minneapolis, OCEANS ARE COOL, ok?), make small talk about the other plane that took off next to us, and promptly end that conversation.

I grabbed my headphones, ready for the in-flight movie.

I ordered wine. Ok, that has nothing to do with this story, but it sure did make me feel better.

He made a couple of other comments about how it was too bad he wasn’t spending more time in Minneapolis, about how cool would that be if we could actually hang out tonight, and stuff like that. I told him how awesome Minneapolis was and that “yeah, sure it’d be fun to go OUT places and do things IN PUBLIC, you know NOT ALONE but with OTHER PEOPLE.”

Now? He’s sleeping and I’m writing this story about a guy who I’m sure is nice enough, though if he thinks that this is charming, has me completely mistaken.

Let’s consider how he might have been successful:

That initial conversation? Yeah, let’s keep talking about where we’re from, what we do, and where we’re going. You’re from West Africa?  That’s actually interesting . I’m from Minneapolis. Let’s talk about it.

You like soccer?

Sweet, I like things too.

What if we’d chatted for three and a half hours, found out what we do and don’t have in common, clicked (or hated each other), and then thrown out some “what if” about keeping in touch.

Way more interesting.

This way?

NO EFFING WAY.

Sorry, you’re cute but that - at least in my book – is not how this heart is won.

There’s a time where forward is hot. Where putting it out there immediately that “I’m into you,” “I’m attracted to you,” “I’m intrigued by you,” is awesome.

This wasn’t that and is therefore not in my awesome story file.

What about you? What wins you over? What absolutely doesn’t?

{ 107 comments… read them below or add one }

Kellie August 4, 2009 at 1:51 am

Oh how awkward! I'm always too nice and the guys get the wrong impression but really I'm just NICE & not hitting on them!!! Too bad he totally jumped the gun!Humor wins me over. A guy has to be able to laugh and joke around. And it doesn't hurt if they are really, totally, extremely good looking! :) Haha!

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doniree August 4, 2009 at 1:55 am

Humor, absolutely. Someone that can make me laugh.

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Nora August 4, 2009 at 2:07 am

Well thank goodness for technology like in-flight movies and headphones to avoid most of the awkwardness. Turns me off: arrogance. Turns me on: intelligence, humor, spontaneous

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andyrmt August 4, 2009 at 2:13 am

I look for the Big Three Things :- A good sense of humor, meaning he is funny and makes me laugh, and occasionally laughs at my "jokes".- To be smart. I don't want PhD or plane engineering, but good conversation is always important, and if all he thinks about is pure crap, hell no.- To be a gentleman. You know, the casual open doors, grab your coat, look at you in the eyes and not to your boobs, etc.Physically, I like men's smiles and eyes. Yumm ;)

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ria August 4, 2009 at 2:13 am

and that is the perfect example of why i hate flying alone. lol you never know who you are going to be sitting next to. i would have been hella uncomfortable. you handled that way better than i. what a weirdo ;)

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DeRushaJ August 4, 2009 at 2:37 am

In his defense, maybe he had one of those lists of 100 things he wants to accomplish, and he was trying to check off #35: Be a jackass to a single woman on a plane. Or maybe #84: Do it in a lavatory. I mean, if you're trying to accomplish #84, you've got to start that effort near the beginning of the flight.

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Jenn August 4, 2009 at 2:45 am

dollface. i'm sorry… although I'm glad I'm not the only one with awkward encounters with men. I did pick up a guy on a train once though.

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doniree August 4, 2009 at 2:46 am

Arrogance is DEFINITELY a turn-off. Confidence is a plus, but cocky? Nothank you.

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doniree August 4, 2009 at 2:48 am

Ha, fair enough. In which case, I applaud his effort and wish him the best of luck on his next in-flight attempts.

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doniree August 4, 2009 at 2:50 am

Thanks! I always kind of hope for someone cool and interesting and I thoughthe was going to be that. Turns out, just a weirdo.

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doniree August 4, 2009 at 3:06 am

I'd have been much more impressed if I knew the guy behind the flirtingrather than been broadsided with such forward questions. Glad itentertained you :)

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Joy @ BigTimeFancy August 4, 2009 at 3:21 am

Holy jesus, if I had a dollar for every time this happened to me while I was waitressing, I'd have about a million dollars. Their "in" with that is usually, "OMG YOU LIKE TO DRINK TOO?"

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doniree August 4, 2009 at 4:40 am

Next time, I SO "have a boyfriend," ha :)

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Kellie August 4, 2009 at 4:51 am

Oh how awkward! I'm always too nice and the guys get the wrong impression but really I'm just NICE & not hitting on them!!! Too bad he totally jumped the gun!Humor wins me over. A guy has to be able to laugh and joke around. And it doesn't hurt if they are really, totally, extremely good looking! :) Haha!

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Nora August 4, 2009 at 5:07 am

Well thank goodness for technology like in-flight movies and headphones to avoid most of the awkwardness. Turns me off: arrogance. Turns me on: intelligence, humor, spontaneous

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andyrmt August 4, 2009 at 5:13 am

I look for the Big Three Things :- A good sense of humor, meaning he is funny and makes me laugh, and occasionally laughs at my "jokes".- To be smart. I don't want PhD or plane engineering, but good conversation is always important, and if all he thinks about is pure crap, hell no.- To be a gentleman. You know, the casual open doors, grab your coat, look at you in the eyes and not to your boobs, etc.Physically, I like men's smiles and eyes. Yumm ;)

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DeRushaJ August 4, 2009 at 5:37 am

In his defense, maybe he had one of those lists of 100 things he wants to accomplish, and he was trying to check off #35: Be a jackass to a single woman on a plane. Or maybe #84: Do it in a lavatory. I mean, if you're trying to accomplish #84, you've got to start that effort near the beginning of the flight.

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Jenn August 4, 2009 at 5:45 am

dollface. i'm sorry… although I'm glad I'm not the only one with awkward encounters with men. I did pick up a guy on a train once though.

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doniree August 4, 2009 at 5:48 am

Great list, and I agree about smarts. I love a guy I can learn from,someone who pushes me like that.

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doniree August 4, 2009 at 5:48 am

How'd you hook him?

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doniree August 4, 2009 at 5:50 am

Great list, and I agree about smarts. I love a guy I can learn from,someone who pushes me like that.

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doniree August 4, 2009 at 5:50 am

Thanks! I always kind of hope for someone cool and interesting and I thoughthe was going to be that. Turns out, just a weirdo.

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Ben August 4, 2009 at 5:53 am

Haha, that's a great story. In his defense, when a pretty girl humors us guys with even a minute of small talk we're pretty sure you're into us (though it's not usually the case) and sometimes we're not sure what's being too forward and what's being a wuss.I do think you hit the nail on the head. In that kind of situation I would have hoped that I would have the sense to wait until the flight was winding down and then if we were still clicking really well ask to exchange info, grab a drink, etc. Maybe this one didn't make it into your awesome story file but it definitely entertained me for a few minutes.

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doniree August 4, 2009 at 6:06 am

I'd have been much more impressed if I knew the guy behind the flirtingrather than been broadsided with such forward questions. Glad itentertained you :)

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Joy @ BigTimeFancy August 4, 2009 at 6:21 am

Holy jesus, if I had a dollar for every time this happened to me while I was waitressing, I'd have about a million dollars. Their "in" with that is usually, "OMG YOU LIKE TO DRINK TOO?"

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Erin August 4, 2009 at 6:30 am

I cannot stand getting asked the boyfriend question 30 seconds into a conversation. It's a complete turn off. Let's get to know each other first before you worry about any potential for dating.What wins me over is a sense of humor, being comfortable in your own skin, and NOT asking me about my boyfriend.Of course, I guess this is all moot since what really wins me over is my husband. :)

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doniree August 4, 2009 at 7:55 am

Humor, absolutely. Someone that can make me laugh.

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ria August 4, 2009 at 8:13 am

and that is the perfect example of why i hate flying alone. lol you never know who you are going to be sitting next to. i would have been hella uncomfortable. you handled that way better than i. what a weirdo ;)

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Ev`Yan || apricot te August 4, 2009 at 7:35 am

Haha, oh my goodness, he was smitten by you. I was rolling when he said "You've never dated a brother before?" How cheesy is that? I agree with you. I would have been thinking the same things. His approach would have not won me over, & more than likely I would have lied & said I DID have a boyfriend. I hate those kinds of conversations, so I try to dodge them as much as possible. You handled yourself well, though, considering…What a cornball!

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SoMi's Nilsa August 4, 2009 at 7:40 am

So, I think different cultures have different ways of conversing (and thus, flirting). I agree with you that he was VERY forward. But, personally, it wouldn't bother me all that much. At least you know his intentions up front.

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doniree August 4, 2009 at 8:48 am

Ha, fair enough. In which case, I applaud his effort and wish him the best of luck on his next in-flight attempts.

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doniree August 4, 2009 at 8:48 am

How'd you hook him?

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doniree August 4, 2009 at 8:50 am

Great list, and I agree about smarts. I love a guy I can learn from,
someone who pushes me like that.

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Ben August 4, 2009 at 8:53 am

Haha, that's a great story. In his defense, when a pretty girl humors us guys with even a minute of small talk we're pretty sure you're into us (though it's not usually the case) and sometimes we're not sure what's being too forward and what's being a wuss.

I do think you hit the nail on the head. In that kind of situation I would have hoped that I would have the sense to wait until the flight was winding down and then if we were still clicking really well ask to exchange info, grab a drink, etc.

Maybe this one didn't make it into your awesome story file but it definitely entertained me for a few minutes.

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Erin August 4, 2009 at 8:33 am

That absolutely wouldn't win me over! Confidence is always a plus, not certainly not cockiness!

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Katie August 4, 2009 at 8:51 am

Did you get his number? Maybe I'd want to date him. I've never dated a brotha'Seriously, it amazes me how some men think their 'game' is so good. I bet he went home to his friends and your 'exchange' was transformed into "she wanted me so bad, yo!"

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lovesfool August 4, 2009 at 9:02 am

Wow. I've had moments like this before but NEVER on a plane. That is seriously awkward. Honesty and humor win me over. If you can make me laugh and you are honest with me we'll get along just fine :)

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Erin August 4, 2009 at 9:30 am

I cannot stand getting asked the boyfriend question 30 seconds into a conversation. It's a complete turn off. Let's get to know each other first before you worry about any potential for dating.What wins me over is a sense of humor, being comfortable in your own skin, and NOT asking me about my boyfriend.Of course, I guess this is all moot since what really wins me over is my husband. :)

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phampants August 4, 2009 at 9:34 am

I'm as awkward as you can get. I'm use to it though. I can't deny the fact that I'm an awkward person. I accept it and enjoy it. What's best is when you have awkward friends. It's more fun that way.As for him, he's a little more creepy than awkward for me.

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Ev`Yan || apricot tea. August 4, 2009 at 10:35 am

Haha, oh my goodness, he was smitten by you. I was rolling when he said “You've never dated a brother before?” How cheesy is that? I agree with you. I would have been thinking the same things. His approach would have not won me over, & more than likely I would have lied & said I DID have a boyfriend. I hate those kinds of conversations, so I try to dodge them as much as possible. You handled yourself well, though, considering…

What a cornball!

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doniree August 4, 2009 at 10:40 am

Next time, I SO “have a boyfriend,” ha :)

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nicopolitan August 4, 2009 at 9:53 am

Did you know I just now learned how to pronounce kadfkajfakdjfiweg? I'm bored at work. :/But as a single guy, more tips on how to pull the forward hotness would be appreciated.Oh, and what gets me? It's very simple: giggling.

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katelin August 4, 2009 at 10:13 am

oh wow i can't believe he said that so quickly. sheesh. slow down guy, you've 3.5 hours ahead of you. some guys are just too anxious. he was probably blown away from your hotness and just blurted out whatever came to mind, haha :)

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Karlie August 4, 2009 at 9:15 am

This story is absolutely delicious. Well done handling that one with grace! ;)

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doniree August 4, 2009 at 10:18 am

Hey, you taught me l'chaim, I can teach you kadfkajfakdjfiweg. Give andtake.To address your point though, there is a place where forward is awesome. For instance, this guy on the plane? Early in the conversation, hementioned that he'd noticed me as soon as he walked into the gate area.That? Super cute, I blushed (probably giggled), and continued talking.It was the part where weird implications were made (I glazed over some ofhis more-forward come-ons) that I got annoyed.

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Erin August 4, 2009 at 11:33 am

That absolutely wouldn't win me over! Confidence is always a plus, not certainly not cockiness!

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SoMi's Nilsa August 4, 2009 at 10:40 am

So, I think different cultures have different ways of conversing (and thus, flirting). I agree with you that he was VERY forward. But, personally, it wouldn't bother me all that much. At least you know his intentions up front.

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doniree August 4, 2009 at 11:46 am

Arrogance is DEFINITELY a turn-off. Confidence is a plus, but cocky? No
thank you.

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doniree August 4, 2009 at 11:06 am

Thank you! I did my best… I don't think "grace" is entirely accurate, but I'll take it!

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tootsiemom August 4, 2009 at 11:09 am

Sounds like you handled it well. Way to go, girl!

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doniree August 4, 2009 at 11:11 am

Or at least get to know me before you pretend you were thinking about anything other than dating. GEEZ.

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doniree August 4, 2009 at 11:12 am

Good point!

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tootsiemom August 4, 2009 at 11:25 am

No, by changing the subject and using your headphones as a way to close the conversation. Don't be snotty to your mother…..:)

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phampants August 4, 2009 at 12:34 pm

I'm as awkward as you can get. I'm use to it though. I can't deny the fact that I'm an awkward person. I accept it and enjoy it. What's best is when you have awkward friends. It's more fun that way.

As for him, he's a little more creepy than awkward for me.

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dotcomkatie August 4, 2009 at 11:51 am

Did you get his number? Maybe I'd want to date him. I've never dated a brotha'Seriously, it amazes me how some men think their 'game' is so good. I bet he went home to his friends and your 'exchange' was transformed into "she wanted me so bad, yo!"

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lovesfool August 4, 2009 at 12:02 pm

Wow. I've had moments like this before but NEVER on a plane. That is seriously awkward. Honesty and humor win me over. If you can make me laugh and you are honest with me we'll get along just fine :)

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doniree August 4, 2009 at 12:06 pm

Bingo bango. I think we all agree that someone who can make us laugh is themost attractive quality :)

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nicopolitan August 4, 2009 at 12:53 pm

Did you know I just now learned how to pronounce kadfkajfakdjfiweg? I'm bored at work. :/But as a single guy, more tips on how to pull the forward hotness would be appreciated.Oh, and what gets me? It's very simple: giggling.

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katelin August 4, 2009 at 1:13 pm

oh wow i can't believe he said that so quickly. sheesh. slow down guy, you've 3.5 hours ahead of you. some guys are just too anxious. he was probably blown away from your hotness and just blurted out whatever came to mind, haha :)

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Karlie August 4, 2009 at 12:15 pm

This story is absolutely delicious.

Well done handling that one with grace! ;)

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doniree August 4, 2009 at 1:18 pm

Hey, you taught me l'chaim, I can teach you kadfkajfakdjfiweg. Give andtake.To address your point though, there is a place where forward is awesome. For instance, this guy on the plane? Early in the conversation, hementioned that he'd noticed me as soon as he walked into the gate area.That? Super cute, I blushed (probably giggled), and continued talking.It was the part where weird implications were made (I glazed over some ofhis more-forward come-ons) that I got annoyed.

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doniree August 4, 2009 at 2:02 pm

What is it about these guys that makes them believe waitresses are just DYING to be hit on? I've bartended and waitressed before myself, and it's like ARE YOU FOR REAL?

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doniree August 4, 2009 at 2:05 pm

Absolutely!

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doniree August 4, 2009 at 2:06 pm

Thank you! I did my best… I don't think "grace" is entirely accurate, but I'll take it!

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doniree August 4, 2009 at 3:06 pm

Bingo bango. I think we all agree that someone who can make us laugh is the
most attractive quality :)

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doniree August 4, 2009 at 2:12 pm

I like awkward. Creepy, not so much.

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doniree August 4, 2009 at 2:14 pm

Next time, I'm SO going to be all "I'm not interested, but my friend KATIE, now we're talking."Noted.

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doniree August 4, 2009 at 2:15 pm

Naturally.

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doniree August 4, 2009 at 2:15 pm

By internally ridiculing him and then blogging about it? I'll have to keep that in mind.

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tootsiemom August 4, 2009 at 2:25 pm

No, by changing the subject and using your headphones as a way to close the conversation. Don't be snotty to your mother…..:)

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ReinventingAmy August 4, 2009 at 3:23 pm

hilarious. he probably thought he was being all 'smooth operator' haha

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doniree August 4, 2009 at 5:02 pm

What is it about these guys that makes them believe waitresses are just DYING to be hit on? I've bartended and waitressed before myself, and it's like ARE YOU FOR REAL?

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doniree August 4, 2009 at 5:05 pm

Absolutely!

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tootsiemom August 4, 2009 at 5:09 pm

Sounds like you handled it well. Way to go, girl!

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doniree August 4, 2009 at 5:11 pm

Or at least get to know me before you pretend you were thinking about anything other than dating. GEEZ.

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doniree August 4, 2009 at 5:12 pm

I like awkward. Creepy, not so much.

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doniree August 4, 2009 at 5:12 pm

Good point!

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doniree August 4, 2009 at 5:14 pm

Next time, I'm SO going to be all “I'm not interested, but my friend KATIE, now we're talking.”

Noted.

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doniree August 4, 2009 at 5:15 pm

Naturally.

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doniree August 4, 2009 at 5:15 pm

By internally ridiculing him and then blogging about it? I'll have to keep that in mind.

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Dad August 4, 2009 at 5:57 pm

Good job #1!
We taught you well. :-)
If they [guys] make you at all uncomfortable, they aren't worth a second of your time.
LY

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andhari August 4, 2009 at 5:10 pm

Ooooh I'm sorry, he seemed great at first. Yeah, at first. This by a long shot wouldnt win me over too, why rush it? Guys are so clueless sometimes. :/ps. thanks for adding me in twitter :)

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ReinventingAmy August 4, 2009 at 6:23 pm

hilarious. he probably thought he was being all 'smooth operator' haha

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Andhari August 4, 2009 at 8:10 pm

Ooooh I'm sorry, he seemed great at first. Yeah, at first. This by a long shot wouldnt win me over too, why rush it? Guys are so clueless sometimes. :/

ps. thanks for adding me in twitter :)

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Dad August 4, 2009 at 8:57 pm

Good job #1!
We taught you well. :-)
If they [guys] make you at all uncomfortable, they aren't worth a second of your time.
LY

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M August 4, 2009 at 8:19 pm

Stumbled upon ur blog. Really loved this first entry i read. Humorous AND insightful.Im a 20sthg who kinda met someone sweet for the first time in a long time. And have been thinking of her ever since i first saw her. And afraid of making the same mistake as the guy that sat beside you, I didnt say hi. And ive been regretting that lack of action ever since.I had wanted to be forward with her that day knowing it's highly unlikely we'll ever cross path ever again but i didnt – cos i wanted our paths to cross. Fate has it that our paths crossed several times that same day but I didnt say hi. Saying hi out of the blue seems….. awkward. That day was the last time I saw her.A couple of days later, something initially a friend knew became something everyone knew and fate has it that the sweet girl i saw was a friend of a friend of mine. He left me her email and left the rest to me. More than one month later, im still pondering on my next step.When's the time where forward is hot? Should i add her on MSN and tell her that eversince the first time i saw her (she saw me too), I cant seem to not think about anyone else but her and i was wondering if we could be friends and get to know one another? Or should i just tell her we met briefly a month ago and i was wondering if we could be friends and get to know one another? Or should i leave it to fate? Or should i just forget about her and start learn to just say hi the next time i meet someone?But what if i want to try win her heart? How would her heart be won – if all girls feel alike? What would u suggest i, a stranger to her, do in order to be in her awesome story file? :)

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Lollygagger August 4, 2009 at 9:37 pm

Just to overgeneralize…haha…soccer players. You gotta watch out for those guys! ;)

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M August 4, 2009 at 11:19 pm

Stumbled upon ur blog. Really loved this first entry i read. Humorous AND insightful.Im a 20sthg who kinda met someone sweet for the first time in a long time. And have been thinking of her ever since i first saw her. And afraid of making the same mistake as the guy that sat beside you, I didnt say hi. And ive been regretting that lack of action ever since.I had wanted to be forward with her that day knowing it's highly unlikely we'll ever cross path ever again but i didnt – cos i wanted our paths to cross. Fate has it that our paths crossed several times that same day but I didnt say hi. Saying hi out of the blue seems….. awkward. That day was the last time I saw her.A couple of days later, something initially a friend knew became something everyone knew and fate has it that the sweet girl i saw was a friend of a friend of mine. He left me her email and left the rest to me. More than one month later, im still pondering on my next step.When's the time where forward is hot? Should i add her on MSN and tell her that eversince the first time i saw her (she saw me too), I cant seem to not think about anyone else but her and i was wondering if we could be friends and get to know one another? Or should i just tell her we met briefly a month ago and i was wondering if we could be friends and get to know one another? Or should i leave it to fate? Or should i just forget about her and start learn to just say hi the next time i meet someone?But what if i want to try win her heart? How would her heart be won – if all girls feel alike? What would u suggest i, a stranger to her, do in order to be in her awesome story file? :)

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Lollygagger August 5, 2009 at 12:37 am

Just to overgeneralize…haha…soccer players. You gotta watch out for those guys! ;)

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mr5280 August 5, 2009 at 2:47 am

:::kadfkajfakdjfiweg:::So thats what a freakout sounds like inside your head? Thats awesome.

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Matt August 5, 2009 at 5:47 am

:::kadfkajfakdjfiweg:::

So thats what a freakout sounds like inside your head?

Thats awesome.

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E.P. August 5, 2009 at 3:33 pm

Umm, wow. That's particularly awkward. (Speaking of, I have some awkward pick up line stories to tell on my blog.) But this? Seriously? Some guys don't get it.I'm a fan of someone who is cute and can have a meaningful conversation. Someone with a certain charm to them. And someone who can make me laugh. That's a huge deal…. What else was said?

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E.P. August 6, 2009 at 12:33 am

Umm, wow. That's particularly awkward. (Speaking of, I have some awkward pick up line stories to tell on my blog.) But this? Seriously? Some guys don't get it.

I'm a fan of someone who is cute and can have a meaningful conversation. Someone with a certain charm to them. And someone who can make me laugh. That's a huge deal.

… What else was said?

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Nick L. August 10, 2009 at 5:13 am

You might be looking at this the wrong way Doni. Maybe you should be happy that he was forward enough to indicate what he was really after. He was looking for a hookup and he went straight for it. He could have spent the entire flight trying to charm you and then dropped the bomb at the end (annoying), or he could have been really nice the whole time, taken you out for dinner, and then tried to nail you on the first date. Either way, I suspect that this guy wasn't looking to get to know you.

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Nick L. August 10, 2009 at 8:13 am

You might be looking at this the wrong way Doni. Maybe you should be happy that he was forward enough to indicate what he was really after. He was looking for a hookup and he went straight for it. He could have spent the entire flight trying to charm you and then dropped the bomb at the end (annoying), or he could have been really nice the whole time, taken you out for dinner, and then tried to nail you on the first date. Either way, I suspect that this guy wasn't looking to get to know you.

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doniree August 10, 2009 at 9:46 am

I like to believe I'd have been able to see through him trying to "charm" methroughout the flight. All I'm sayin' is that this particular approachisn't my cup o' tea.

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doniree August 10, 2009 at 12:46 pm

I like to believe I'd have been able to see through him trying to “charm” me
throughout the flight. All I'm sayin' is that this particular approach
isn't my cup o' tea.

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Nick L. August 10, 2009 at 5:30 pm

Well we'd all like to believe that we can see through others' attempts to charm us, but the reality is that it's actually pretty easy to come off like a nice guy when all you really want to do is nail someone….ESPECIALLY when they live out of town. And besides all of this, I don't think I've met too many women who respond well to this guys tactic. Now that I think about it you probably should have gone for him… he's probably dynamite in the sack.

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Nick L. August 10, 2009 at 8:30 pm

Well we'd all like to believe that we can see through others' attempts to charm us, but the reality is that it's actually pretty easy to come off like a nice guy when all you really want to do is nail someone….ESPECIALLY when they live out of town. And besides all of this, I don't think I've met too many women who respond well to this guys tactic. Now that I think about it you probably should have gone for him… he's probably dynamite in the sack.

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MarriedAKnitter August 15, 2009 at 9:05 pm

Too bad, you could have had a 2nd date to the wedding. Actually, that's probably a good thing, since we wouldn't have had enough food for you, him and @nicopolitan.

Here's what you should do next time:
1. Laugh off the awkwardness, yawn deeply, tell him you're tired and that you're going to get some sleep. Give him the warning that sometimes you sleep with your eyes open. This warning is important!
2. Close your eyes, put your head on your chest and “go to sleep”. It makes it easier if you have one of those tiny airline pillows they sometimes give you.
3. After a few minutes, open your eyes back up every so slightly.
4. Drop your jaw slightly, so you get that completely glazed overlook.
5. Now, here's the important part, slowly flop your head to the right or left (depending which side of you he's sitting on), so you're facing him directly.
6. Keep your eyes slightly open and your moth agape, and stare directly at his nose.
7. If you feel the need to laugh due to the awkward situation you're creating, do it very quietly so it sounds like you're mumbling to yourself in your sleep. In fact, do this anyways, it makes the situation even more awkward.
8. Eventually, he'll try to either wake you up or push you off to the side.
9a. If he wakes you, apologize and tell him you warned him about your eye-open sleep habit.
9b. If he pushes you, let your body go limp and move wherever he pushes you.
10. If 9a occurred, repeat steps 2-8. if 9b occurred, “stay asleep” and repeat steps 5-8. Follow steps 9a and 9b as necessary.
11. Voila! You've successfully and totally creeped him out! If you're really talented and there are open seats on the plane, he might even request a seat change! Then you get the whole row all to yourself!

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MarriedAKnitter August 16, 2009 at 12:05 am

Too bad, you could have had a 2nd date to the wedding. Actually, that's probably a good thing, since we wouldn't have had enough food for you, him and @nicopolitan.

Here's what you do next time:
1. Laugh off the awkwardness, yawn deeply, tell him you're tired and that you're going to get some sleep. Give him the warning that sometimes you sleep with your eyes open. This warning is important!
2. Close your eyes, put your head on your chest and “go to sleep”. It makes it easier if you have one of those tiny airline pillows they sometimes give you.
3. After a few minutes, open your eyes back up every so slightly.
4. Drop your jaw slightly, so you get that completely glazed overlook.
5. Now, here's the important part, slowly flop your head to the right or left (depending which side of you he's sitting on), so you're facing him directly.
6. Keep your eyes slightly open and your moth agape, and stare directly at his nose.
7. If you feel the need to laugh due to the awkward situation you're creating, do it very quietly so it sounds like you're mumbling to yourself in your sleep. In fact, do this anyways, it makes the situation even more awkward.
8. Eventually, he'll try to either wake you up or push you off to the side.
9a. If he wakes you, apologize and tell him you warned him about your eye-open sleep habit.
9b. If he pushes you, let your body go limp and move wherever he pushes you.
10. If 9a occurred, repeat steps 2-8. if 9b occurred, “stay asleep” and repeat steps 5-8. Follow steps 9a and 9b as necessary.
11. Voila! You've successfully and totally creeped him out! If you're really talented and there are open seats on the plane, he might even request a seat change! Then you get the whole row all to yourself!

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doniree August 16, 2009 at 6:01 am

Hi Ev! Welcome to blogging, btw :) And I'll keep this in mind next time I'm in this situation :)

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doniree August 16, 2009 at 9:01 am

Hi Ev! Welcome to blogging, btw :) And I'll keep this in mind next time I'm in this situation :)

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doniree August 31, 2009 at 11:03 am

Oh did ya? :) Kinda fun, huh?

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randykw August 31, 2009 at 1:21 pm

I grew up an 'airline brat' too.

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randykw August 31, 2009 at 4:21 pm

I grew up an 'airline brat' too.

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doniree August 31, 2009 at 5:03 pm

Oh did ya? :) Kinda fun, huh?

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